Christian singer Natalie Grant - Photo by MDB 28 via Flickr (http://bit.ly/MlIfZ4)

Christian singer Natalie Grant – Photo by MDB 28 via Flickr (http://bit.ly/MlIfZ4)

Growing up in a high school youth group, most of my friends were pretty normal people. But occasionally, I would run into someone who would, very politely, ask me not to swear in front of them. “When you say the ‘s-word,’” they would tell me, “I feel uncomfortable.” I complied, out of respect and confusion, but I also knew they would never be someone I could be close friends with. If their Christian faith was so insistent on moral rectitude, I knew I could never be myself around them.

That’s why Christian singer Natalie Grant leaving the Grammys early didn’t surprise me. Grant, nominated for two Gospel Grammys for her song “Hurricane,” wrote Sunday night on her Facebook page:

“We left the Grammy’s early. I’ve many thoughts about the show tonight, most of which are probably better left inside my head. But I’ll say this:
I’ve never been more honored to sing about Jesus and for Jesus. And I’ve never been more sure of the path I’ve chosen.”

She didn’t say which performance caused her to walk out early (and there is something about that I respect). But reading about her decision to leave early and then publicize that decision sounded to me just like the self-righteousness of those people who couldn’t hear a swear word without their faith being threatened.

My other, larger question is this: What did Grant expect? These were the Grammys, after all — where Chris Brown (infamous for beating then-girlfriend Rihanna) was given the stage in 2012, where Paula Cole gave the audience the finger during a performance of “Where Have All the Cowboys Gone,” where Katy Perry performed “E.T.” with backup dancers in S&M gear and Nicki Minaj underwent an exorcism during her song “Roman Holiday.” The Dove Awards this ain’t.

Grant’s choice to leave is her own. But it makes me cringe just a little to hear her talk about it, because it paints another picture of Christians who, rather than being part of the world and culture we inhabit, set themselves above it. Moral superiority is not the aim of the Christian, but that’s what people see when Christian artists can’t sit through an evening of performances. I wish Grant had stayed, thinking critically about what she was seeing before she responded by walking out the door. I wish she had talked about why she was there in the first place, when she must have known the Grammys are part of the strange culture of the (secular) entertainment industry.

I wish she would have stayed home, even, like gospel singer Mandisa (whose “Overcomer” won Christian Contemporary Music Song and Album of the Year), who wrote that she was “rockin’ some purple sweats” at home when the awards were announced. Mandisa had several reasons for not attending — wanting to be at home when she is so often on the road, being certain she wouldn’t win, and, yes, the objectionable performances — but none of them were reactive. She thought about what she would be going to, decided it wasn’t for her, and watched from home, where she could walk away whenever she wanted to without causing a stir.

If we create a culture of Christianity in which other people can’t be themselves around us — whatever that means — our faith will be exclusionary and reactive. I don’t think that’s what Grant wants, but those are the consequences of walking away. I wish she would have stayed.

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Laura Turner

Laura Turner

Laura Turner is a writer and editor living in San Francisco. In addition to being a regular contributor to Christianity Today’s “Her.meneutics” blog, she has also written for publications such as Books & Culture and The Bold Italic. She is interested in the intersection of church and culture.

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      • Bible says “don’t judge”…you should really understand the context of that, and you need to rethink what you are petitioning. You are using “scripture” to back up your argument, but you obviously don’t believe that the bible has any credibility because the Bible (yes even the Old Testament) is about Jesus…so why use it? Secondly do you not realize the in telling others not to judge, you are judging?

    • Yes it is wrong to think that.
      Jesus accepted the sinners that came to him. Embraced them and loved them. As should we.
      But he also called upon them to repent. He preached to crowds that “came to him.” However, we don’t have records of him carousing, participating in collective mass sin. Actually, unless I’m forgetting about another record the one occasion where he walked into a situation where mass sin and affronts to God was taking place, a situation where he likely knew a mass sin was going on, he flipped some tables.

      • Not exactly. He at least ate with publicans and sinners; he didn’t just preach from afar, but shared their lives and space. And the tables he flipped over . . . well, those were in church. ;)

        • He ate with them… and left them changed. He drank with them… and could not be enticed into their sin. He didn’t go in the bedrooms, he met them afterward. He was seen as prostitute’s houses, but not applauding their profession. We need to live and work alongside showing a respect because of who we know — but if it would lead us to sinful thought or deed, or grieves the Holy Spirit within us, we most definitely should leave.

    • No you are not. He hung out with many egregious ‘sinners’ while on earth. He formed a relationship with them. All of that before he told them to ‘go and sin no more.’

    • Nope, not at all. Jesus is A-okay with ALL that stuff! Surely He would have gulped a couple “Martini on the rocks” backstage!

      Gay marriage too, He loves that stuff! Jesus and Queen Latifah together, presiding there on the stage, would have brought down the house on that gay mass wedding event! A guaranteed cover photo on the next Rolling Stone!

      And you just KNOW Christ would have been right there enjoying Katy Perry and Juicy J during that Satanic number! Who does this Natalie Grant think she is, daring to leave early AND publicly tweeting her reasons for doing so??

      Can’t have any “moral superiority” around here! Nope!

      • Jesus would have done none of that. Jesus surrounded himself with sinners. He loved them as people but did not condone their sins/ bad lifestyles (say that it was okay). Jesus would have not enjoyed Katy Perry and Juicy J performance because it is basically like they were praising Satan. Satan is against Jesus so the Jesus would have not enjoyed that at all. He would have shut that performance down. Good and evil can’t mix like that.

  1. Poor Natalie. She was damned if she stayed and damned if she left. I wonder if Mandesa has faired better. She wasn’t there to accept her award. What a world. What a world indeed…

    • I think part of the point of the article was that had she stayed she wouldn’t have been condemned by anyone. She may have regretted it herself. But did anyone else condemn the other Christian artists that stayed?

      • You’d be surprised by comments from some CCM listeners. The flak that Amy Grant got in the past for going “mainstream” comes to mind. (I’ll confess, I was one of the flak givers)

        Point well taken. I guess Natalie would have faired better if she didn’t say anything on twitter after leaving.

        • Gotta get these pesky Christians to shut up. Stop them from saying what they really believe. Stop them from rocking anybody’s boat. Get ‘em to play along and go with the flow. That’s the ticket.

    • She choosed to leave also all because of bad words , DANCE PERFORMANCES THAT LOOKED LIKE DEVIL BRINGERS NO , WHAT IM GOING TO SAY IS DONTquestion the art if you dont get it , I hate people that think ohh arists are devil worships no you conceive it that way because your scared and confused also she wouldnt be damned if shed stayedremember gods watching so yeah he seen the hole thing and you s I do believe in god I just shruggle it off if people sin also everyone sins so yeah I ranther focus on me and tell people now and then remember were human god understands

  2. Laura,
    Thanks for writing this. I agree with you 100%. I have so much more to say about this but won’t. I will say that a friend of my daughters, who grew up in our church, won a Grammy on Sunday and LOVED every minute of it and he is a solid believer. Strong faith comes from within…

  3. What a spurious and meaningless article. Laura, at the very least you have projected your interpretations and opinions on Natalie and used it as fodder to make petty points about what you would have done. No one is ever happy when someone makes a (moral) choice in a moment, while they have the luxury of analyzing them from the safety of their own computer screen and as time and retrospect permit. It appears that she wrote two short sentences about her savior and her commitment to him, but you wrote 8 paragraphs of analysis void of understanding and full of criticism and judgment. Try again.

    • I agree, John. Perhaps a refresher on Romans 14:22 – 23 would be helpful?
      Laura, I wonder if another writer were to apply the same number of “I wish”es in criticism of a choice of yours if she’d find it helpful or hurtful? You said her action & comment sound “self-righteousness” to you. It sounds self-righteous to me for you to critique at such length all that she did wrong. Natalie was not once telling anyone else what they should do. Would that the same could be said for you.

      • And yet are you not doing the same in handing someone a Bible verse as part of a snide remark? Hard to model for someone the change you wish to see in the world when in giving them instructions you reiterate exactly what you just condemned in them.

  4. Laura, I agree with you completely. Thanks for sharing your ideas. My only counter-thought (with which you seem to agree) is so: to avoid passing judgement on her, I have to believe that Grant’s intention was to never put herself “above” what was going on at the Grammy’s. I know that’s what it looked like, but I would hope with my whole heart that that is not what she intended.

    Regardless, excellent post. If only Grant were able to see it.

  5. I fully disagree with the authors assessment. I’ve gone to movies and walked out of them before because of what was contained within them. Did I know there would be some less than admirable conduct and language in them? Yes I did, and I’m a grown up and can handle some of it. That being said, I also have a limit on what I deem “appropriate” and what I won’t stand for. Does that make me “self righteous”? If listening to my conscience and acting accordingly makes me self righteous then I’ll take that label. I applaud Grant for not allowing the line to be crossed in her own heart and mind. Just because you can expect to be confronted with trash from the world does not mean that you have to sit there and have it dumped over your head.

    • Here’s the deal, DJ. You’re supposed to shut up immediately after you leave that rotten movie, and NOT publicly communicate in specifically Christian terms WHY you left that rotten movie.

      Natalie Grant broke the rules, see? She told everybody (via tweeting) why she left, and she did so in Christian terms. So that’s why she’s a bad Christian.

  6. Well said John, Claude & DJ. I don’t agree with the author that Natalie was wrong to leave and say something. If she hadn’t said anything people would have been talking and accusing her of something or another. I think I would have left too…right behind her. Was she supposed to stay and pretend she was having a great time?

  7. I understand and appreciate your point, Laura. Still, I can’t help but think that I probably would have done the same thing Natalie did. Yes, I’m sure she expected a certain level of sensuality and a certain amount of risque lyrics and so forth. But sometimes there comes a time when you think you’re prepared for something, and then it’s worse than you thought, and you find yourself thinking, “I’ve had all I can take.” And I think that her sharing that opinion helped give a voice to other people who felt that way too.

    Just my two cents.

  8. Laura, your title (who is the “WE” you are speaking for, why not “I”?) on it’s face suggests a heavy reliance on assumption in order to pass judgement on ms. Grant’s actions and presumed motives.
    You cast criticism and judgment on her for setting herself up as “morally superior” for attending , and then exiting early. Her talking about this makes you cringe as though she’s some prude who can’t tolerate the slightest suggestion of anything “non christian” (your assumption) . In order for your analysis to be accurate you are grasping at huge (and probably false) assumptions that Ms. Grant’s faith felt “threatened” (your words ), that she self righteously set herself above the culture which she inhabits , (she didn’t, did you actually read her 2 posts on the subject in their entirety or just go off the numerous sensationalist and speculative media reports for the critical angle you needed?) and also that she must have known in advance that the Grammys ( consistently a controversial and predictably provocative secular platform ) would reach a new historic low of sociopolitical agenda that involved hyper sexualized performances , powerful overt glorification of satanic imagery , and a mass gay wedding that even some mainstream media decried as a political stunt. No, I’m not one of those christians that gets my feathers ruffled when someone utters a cuss word or when I’m around people whose beliefs are antithetical to mine , thats 24/7 for me. Perhaps she felt , and in the moment , yes even “reacted” to something within (may I suggest the spirit of God within her) and left to simply remove herself from a frontal assault of the darkness she may have felt while there in person. Or maybe she just had a headache? She didn’t specify , you assumed. You suggest she shouldn’t have attended… right , Since she had 2 nominations that night- so your version of a great critical thinking christian is to simply know all of this in advance per some professional exclusive pre-show insight into the tightly guarded content of the show and then not attend? I’m sorry , but that is pure hogwash pandering for an angle! Where would your personal line fall? Would you put up with anything just to fit in and be liked by all? Maybe you could put up with the brazen parade of satanic imagery just long enough to be thought of as open minded and “non exclusionary” ? Where’s the line? Would you tolerate a dramatized human sacrifice? (a documented part of satanic ritualistic worship). Preposterous? Read history and you will see that culture is what we make it. Leaders lead. God gave you a voice , what for?
    According to your article, ms. Grant would have been better served to remain there a silent witness , to “get over it” (kinda like the masses in attendance) so as to make sure that no one present or within her public sphere would ever know a single conviction that she held on such an obvious public spectacle? kinda like this article, huh? In an age where people tweet what they are having for breakfast , you think she was wrong to say anything at all , maybe she should be like the one of the cool kids and slink off into the night without a voice? Perhaps her courage and boldness are in stark contrast to that vision and bothersome to many such as yourself. I applaud her. With a statement that condemned no person (“I’ve judged no one, I hate no one”) and communicated the all encompassing love of Christ for everyone , she’s unintentionally managed to start a cultural conversation …with 2 posts and 17 million online hits later !! In the last few days , she’s been one of the most googled people on planet earth, something that I’m sure no one in their right mind (last of all Ms Grant) could have predicted about some innocuous tweet about “we left early”. The assertion that she represents an “exclusionary and reactive” christianity? Have you ever researched this lady? Obviously not. On a contradictory note, you also suggested that you wish she would have stayed home and…..blogged about it?? Some pretty shoddy logic, but certainly not fair, nor journalistically sound. Sure , it’s an opinion piece , and I respectfully submit that the opinion presented here doesn’t hold together one bit. I looked her up , the last thing she projects is an “exclusionary ” christianity. Seems to me everything about Ms . Grant has been classy, restrained , bold , and very much like…Christ-like. Yes, you “can” wish Grant hadn’t left the Grammys, but “should ” you?

    • Nick – So proud to call you my brother in Christ. It’s ironic that mainstream thinkers will tell us if we, as believers, don’t like what we hear on the radio or watch on the television, we can just “turn it off” or “flip it for goodness sakes.” Ms. Grant does exactly that (turns it off by leaving) and as a result, she’s condemned. This country is in need of a serious revival and perhaps Christian entertainers, like Ms. Grant, will lead the way. Although given a voice, it’s evident the author of this article will remain on the sidelines and hope everyone likes her enough not to say or do anything that may offend or make her feel uncomfortable. Ironically, gay marriage and satin worship is okay, but being called out on the rug (for saying a “bad” word) is reminiscent of just too much. It’s a me, me, me world we live in. Toughen up and decide which side of the fence your on.

    • I agree with Nick. Laura do you not remember that as Christians we are called in the Bible to be “set apart.” To be different than others. . But if I were Mrs. Grant, I would have left too, or maybe even just stayed home, where I could have just changed the channel if an act was just too racy for me to want to watch. Jesus says we are to be different than the world. Yes, we can be in the world, like at the Grammys, but not OF the world. I am thinking also maybe Mrs. Grant also just had enough and thought it was time to leave. Maybe she got a word from the Lord to leave. Again, if it was me I would have left as well.

      Call me a prude,I can take it, but at these events the people that attend them often dress provocatively and the acts can be very “worldly/sexual”. We as a society have become so desensitized by all of “this” the dressing provocatively, filthy talking, immoral acting that this society keeps pushing the boundaries even further to see how much more the world can take. I for one won’t stand for it. I’ll stand up and be prudish all day long and twice on Sunday. A lot of the women today I see walking around need to think twice on their clothing options. We don’t need to see your top half hanging out of your top and your pants so tight they look painted on. And guys aren’t any better with the things they wear a lot of the times.

      What I am saying people is this. Our society has become so desensitized, and what they showed at the grammy’s really pushes the envelope, like other award shows. We as Christians need to take a stand and support those artist who decide to not attend for their reasons or who decide to leave like Mrs. Grant.

      And I personally did not like your article Laura, I felt you were so one sided, and so against Mrs. Grant. And you call yourself a Christian? Where is your compassion? Not in this article that’s for sure.

      Mrs. Wright- the prudish woman from The Great State of South Carolina

    • I applaud her for leaving. Yes, she could’ve chosen not to attend in the first place. She could’ve chosen to stay throughout the entire show. She also could’ve chosen to walk out during a specific performance; bash that performer; go on a rant about the many things that occurred that were absolutely objectionable to say the least; etc. She chose none of those. Instead, she chose to attend; possibly out of respect for being invited. She chose to leave in between performances; when she wouldn’t interrupt anything or make a scene. For all anyone else attending may know; she simply had to use the restroom or didn’t feel well, got a call about a sick child or whatever. It’s really no one’s business. Yes, she chose to post a general comment about her experience. She didn’t name anyone or any action specifically; yet people chose to attack her for “hating gays” or being a racist, among many other things that were uncalled for to say the least. I’ve met (and cried with) Natalie and she is a lady of grace, love for all, and compassion for everyone. The media chose to make a big deal of this because she’s a Christian. If she were of any other belief, it would be a non issue. The author of the referenced article is assuming a great deal; listing her own opinion based on nothing and merely trying to stir a pot that doesn’t need stirring. Shame on her for doing so.

  9. I understand what you mean, but stating that Natalie should… should not have.. etc… is just as judgmental as you say she was by leaving the Grammys. We all see things from different perspectives. Let her have hers.

  10. Boz Tchividjian

    I actually had a much different reaction to Natalie’s post. I am not a culture warrior, and think that Christians all too often engage in self persecuting behavior. However, I found her statement to be very classy. Unlike what we have seen from other professing Christians in the past weeks (hint: Quack Quack) and those that support them, Natalie’s statement did not condemn or fuel a Christian culture war. She simply conveyed her heart in as humble a manner as possible – and that I can respect and even admire.

  11. Ms. Turner, after reading your article I was in shock. I think you should start reading your bible again. Remember what it means to be the salt of the earth. God bless you.

  12. Hate to break it to you, but no one really cares. 95 percent of America still doesn’t know who Natalie Grant is, much less cares why she left the Grammy’s early. I’m a Christian, I love all types of Christian music, and I, along with many others, just now heard of her name. As for being ‘self-righteous’, add that to the list of misconceptions people already have of us. People will interpret her actions whatever way they want, but she left for herself. Not you. Not anyone else.

  13. Hmmm sorry I have to disagree here. I would probably have left. Whilst I can normally put up with a lot, I honestly think Satanic rituals and the glorification of homosexuality is a bit much…I would’ve left, and I’m proud of Natalie for leaving.

  14. I don’t know much about Natalie Grant, and I am sure she was sincere in her statement and honestly thought she was making the right decision. Kudos to her for doing what she thought was right. However, when I read the news about her leaving, I honestly rolled my eyes and thought “Of course she did.” I’m a Christian who is rolling my eyes at this. Think about what non-Christians did when they read about this. Trust me, I have lots of non-Christian friends. I hear about this stuff from them. CHRISTIANS are gathering around her saying, “Yeah! Good for her! Take a stand!” but all it did in the “secular” world is give people another reason to poke fun at Christianity and how “out of touch” it is. I’m not saying this to be harsh or cruel. It is the truth. I think Christians so often get caught up in doing what is “right” and “holy” and “pure” that they forget that those “sinners” are actually PEOPLE who Jesus not only loves, but LIKES. Yep, I believe that God actually likes Jay-Z and Beyonce and Queen Latifah. Didn’t Jesus often hang with the prostitutes, taxpayers, and “sinners”? (I’m with Graham on this one). If there really is to be a revival in this country as some of you have written about, walking out on the Grammy’s is not the way to start it. Yes, the “secular” world noticed, but all it did was make people roll their eyes and chuckle.

    • Even if as Christians we were perfectly like Jesus in nor judging others, in ‘hanging around with sinners’…we’d still be crucified, just as Jesus was. You can roll your eyes all you want love but the world will always hate a true follower of Christ.

    • She did not “walk out”. She “left early”. Two completely different connotations. That’s one of the many ways this article is completely bogus. The author judges Natalie Grant and gives much too much power to the statement..”we left early”.

      • “I walked out.” Posted at 11:22pm on Jan 26//An innocent (public) tweet by @nataliegrant in reply to an innocent question tweeted by @shearamsey : “how do you feel about being at the Grammys right now?”
        “I walked out.” PERIOD. 12 characters. To the pure, these words were and are pure, but 1 twitter handle desired to pursue their own agenda. “I walked out.” was labeled as “hate speech” and with the stroke of a hashtag—hate, twisted truth, and division moved across cyberspace. And to what end? If I look for hate then I will most likely create it. Fans of Ms. Grant know her 3 words were pure because the heart in her music and good works is pure. As Believers we will choose to do good, even in the face of hate.
        (Titus 1:15-16;Matt 5:44)

    • Yes, I can imagine Jesus standing there all robed in white on that Grammy stage with Queen Latifah, telling those homosexual couples to exchange their wedding rings and celebrate…. Nahhhh.

      Natalie, you did the right thing. That whole building needed an exorcism.

  15. Based upon what was going on during the actual show, the inference from frequent news stories about this crowd’s kind of parties, and the fact that this would be a “big night” for them… I absolutely do not believe Jesus would join in on their after party. Just because you grew up in a repressive environment and now wish to take your freedom to excess at other’s expense contrary to the teaching of the New Testament, please do not superimpose your vision of occupy hipster San Fran a-ok homosexual Jesus on the real Jesus of the Bible :-)

      • K, and what did you mean by your racist comment “conservative white version of the real Jesus Christ?”

        We all know that Christ was of Middle Eastern descent so he would be not white, not black but of a darker skin like in Egypt and Israel today.

        So what exactly DID you mean by your comment? Because there is, was and will be only ONE Jesus Christ. Not one to fit each ethnicity, or denomination. Just one Lord of Lords! Only one Jesus died on the cross for my sins and your sins and all of our sins, so that we make have everlasting life and an abundant life here on this earth now.

        I only know of one Jesus and He is my Savior.

  16. Laura, solid article and I totally get where you’re coming from. I wish she would have stayed also, to possibly engage in conversations and discussions about what it is she (and we all) believe. Kinda hard to reach out to the lost when you’re not in the same location…

    A lot of people misread this article but to me, you weren’t judging Natalie Grant or calling her self-righteous. It was the appearance or “perception” rather, of this self-righteousneas that fuels non-believers disdain for supposed followers of a loving and forgiving Christ.

    As for all these self-righteous people giving you grief on this string, forget about it. Their statements alone paint a vivid picture of the angry God they believe in. Sorry, but that’s not the Jesus I follow.

    And to the guy who called you out because you’re from San Francisco… wow. really, dude?

    Anyhow, great article. Keep up the good work. :)

  17. I do not think Natalie Grant did anything wrong by leaving the Grammy’s. She did not point to any one performer and condemn them for the content of their performance. There is nothing wrong with walking away from something that goes against your strongly held beliefs. She should not be condemned for that at all. I do not believe we should hide ourselves in our little Christian bubble, and block out anything that is even slightly against our beliefs, how then would we reach anyone with the Gospel? On the other hand that does not mean that we should immerse ourselves in the world, to avoid the appearance that we are setting ourselves above it. We can love people without condoning, or participating, in the things they are doing that we believe are wrong. I believe that is what Ms. Grant did. She never pointed to one particular performance as being the reason she left, she simply said she had thoughts that were better left unsaid, and that she was proud to sing for Jesus. I see nothing to condemn.

  18. I honestly think the most “Christ like” thing would be to quit pointing fingers at Natalie for her choice to talk about why she left the Grammy’s publicly and quit using “social media” to destroy her because of them. I don’t really know anyone who doesn’t voice their daily activities via social media outlets…so to focus in on her and not our own lives is technically “a choice of being self righteous”…I guess we all have the right to say she was wrong since we have the right to judge her and define her as “self-righteous” and just go ahead and condemn her right? No. Not at all. The most hypocritical thing is Christians laying down their judgement of others and its that reason why the world is rarely in favor of us…Christians we do not have the right to judge anyone…so quit….disappointing.

    • Wait a minute – it’s normal to post what you’re doing and how you feel on social media, but it’s not okay to comment on what another posts? What is the purpose of posting – just to exercise one’s big ego? Or to engage in dialog and conversation, to increase knowledge and experience, to testify to faith, hope and love.

  19. Conscience is a rather personal thing, and it doesn’t work in universal ways. St. Paul I think would have said strong bear with the weak, and weak try to understand the strong and would have said that we should support those who felt the need to withdraw from something they weren’t willing to support and to support those who felt they could stay and have a positive presence. He would have encouraged us to affirm the good and to support those making stands of faith whether strong or weak.

  20. I applaud Ms Grant for her convictions. Tell me, how far do we go with this ‘out shock each other approach’ society. It tires me. I respect everyones personal rights and being unique, but its not the kind of thing I want to sit on the couch and watch with my grandchildren, or anyone for that matter. This show, with its adult content, should have been aired for late night television, if at all.

  21. The irony of this article is that just as you’re accusing Natalie Grant of setting herself above others in a self-righteous way, you are doing the same by judging her and setting yourself above her and Christians that would’ve done the same. If we want to help the world and help the image of “christians” let’s stop judging. You weren’t there and you don’t know what made her leave and if your argument is that everyone should have the right to be themselves, she should have that right too and that includes the right to leave if she wants to without being criticized for it. If you’re concerned about what other people see or think when they look at Christians, you’re not helping by writing an article that makes people feel entitled to make judgmental comments.

    • NOBODY has the “right” not to be criticized.

      And any Christian who presumes to judge others — or proclaim their own faith in Jesus to be better than everyone else’s faith in Jesus — deserves to be criticized by fellow Christians.

      FWIW, the marriage ceremony wasn’t offensive because it included gay couples; it was offensive because it turned marriage into a for-profit pop-culture commodity.

      Natalie Grant didn’t stand by any Christian convictions; she declared her showy religiosity to be superior to that of those who actually cherish marriage and faith.

      • Completely ridiculous. Show me where or how she did that? If you follow her feed, She stated she left before the marriage even happened. It had nothing to do with that. She simply stated she left early.
        Everyone else has turned this in to something I’m sure Ms Grant never intended. That’s the humorous part.

      • Okay, okay. You’re right. Natalie Grant deserves criticism.

        I hereby criticize Natalie for failing to perform a major exorcism from one end of that building to the other.

        Will that suffice?

  22. Your article is dead-on, despite how controversial the comments make it seem.

    The fact is that morality means a lot of different things for a lot of different people. Some find pornography acceptable. Some find a sip of alcohol reprehensible. Some find gay marriage unmoral. Some find blocking gay marriage unmoral. It’s a complex scale without an objective right or wrong.

    Natalie Grant decided to publicly declare where she was on that scale, which doesn’t make her a better person or advance her cause. It’s nothing more than a flat gesture to express her views. That’s not noble or laudable, it is only perceived as such when it’s agreed with. It’s not “standing up” for yourself, it’s just conceit and moral superiority.

  23. What Natalie did was very Christ-like. She did not judge, she did not air her thoughts or feelings, she simply removed herself from the situation and only proclaimed that she is glad for her choice in life to serve and follow God. The author is presuming upon Grant her own feelings about engagement of the culture, plain and simple. One thing I agree with: as followers of Christ many of us have made that “judgmental” decision and statements like it in the past. We are unfortunately dealing with our past actions as a worldwide body of believers. This author seems to be reacting to that past. Unfortunately, she presumes upon Natalie Grant and her actions her “own” desires.

  24. I don’t think it was wrong for Natalie Grant to leave the Grammys, but I do question her decision to broadcast it on twitter. Why did she have to do that? We wouldn’t be having this discussion if she had just left quietly.

    • I feel like she made the right choice all around. As a Chrisian, she left because she felt uncomfortable with some of the content, and because she is a person whom a lot of Christians look up to, she used her platform to show that it’s ok to leave before you cross the line with what content you are uncomfortable with. Above all, she was not judging because she did not say that what she left for was wrong; Christians have different levels of comfortability, and some who are Christians might have chosen to stay in te same situation she was in.
      All in all, she left when she felt uncomfortable, used her platform to encourage other Christians to follow their sensibilities, and was not judging in that public message. Very encouraging, I hope to make a better stand in the future about what I sit through and not let others’ opinions of me influence my actions.

  25. Also, for those who say we shouldn’t assume Grant’s motives or talk about her like this, we have to remember that she started this conversation on social media. If Natalie Grant didn’t want anyone to comment on her tweet, then I assume she wouldn’t(or shouldn’t) have tweeted anything in the first place. It’s a healthy thing for fellow Christians to examine the things we say. Lord help us if we ever get to the point where we aren’t aloud to think critically about the things famous Christians say in public.

  26. Although I disagree with much of what Laura wrote, this statement concerns me the most: “If we create a culture of Christianity in which other people can’t be themselves around us — whatever that means — our faith will be exclusionary and reactive.” But in John 7:7 Jesus said that the reason the world hates me is that I because “I testify that its works are evil.” Are we to be like Jesus or not? If we are, then the world should persecute us for righteousness sake. We are not called to blend in–we are called to be salt and light. Paul said in 2 Tim. 3:12 that “all who lead a godly life will be persecuted.” Laura, do you not think that we should all be persecuted for righteousness sake?

    Regarding Grant’s motives, in 1 Cor. 4 Paul wrote, “Judge nothing before the appointed time, He will bring to light was is hidden in darkness and expose the motives of men’s hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.” Her motives will be revealed at the last day, Laura, as will yours and mine. Let’s give Natalie a break in the mean time.

    • Thank you, Clay. That one saying of Jesus’ rather neatly disposes of all of those who claim to admire Christ but despise His followers–usually because they are ignorant of what all Christ actually taught beyond a few universally-recognized verses. Essentially He was saying, “They’re not really hating on you, but on ME, and here’s why.”

      And that saying is as true today as it was in the 1st century AD.

  27. Not so sure that I disagree here, Laura. The statement made by Grant cuts many ways and we must think hard about the message we (Christians) are sending. However, there is a bottom line as to what counts as entertainment and, for me, after the first 12 sec of the opening act on my TV, I flipped channels over to the BBC via Apple TV. Never looked back. I believe it was Erwin Lutzer who once said “[believers] should never be entertained by that which is an offense against God.” Of course, Grant was there no doubt for her nominations, but I (as a male especially) must guard the content that comes into my mind via the audio/visual. Sometimes, the Joseph technique (Gen 39:12) is not necessarily the wrong one.

  28. I totally support Natalie for her strength and values to know when enough is enough. While the Grammy’s have always had questionable performances, Sunday night’s was by far the worst. The opening number with Beyonce was soft porn in my opinion and it didn’t get much better after that. HOWEVER, that is their perogative and the perogative of the people that chose to watch it. Same with the final number with Queen Latifah and the washed out Madonna. Hollywood keeps pushing the envelope and using their celebrity status as a platform to push their beliefs on others. I was very upset – but I have my beliefs and they are mine. But to force this on the audience is wrong.
    The statement you said “reading about her decision to leave early and then publicize that decision sounded to me just like the self-righteousness of those people who couldn’t hear a swear word without their faith being threatened….” is by far one of the most uneducated statements I have ever heard. What is the difference about Christians stating their beliefs and stating their stance on various things to the people at the Grammy’s stating their beliefs in sex on the stage and marriage equality,
    Furthermore, if as Christians we ask others to please watch their language around us, that is not because we feel our “faith is threatened” We just prefer to exist in a cleaner – friendlier atmosphere without the profanity that clouds the world today.
    Christians do not set ourselves above others…unfortunately there are some that do…but please don’t lump us all into a group – I for one am a Christian but I respect the views and opinions of all people. Do I agree with all of them? No I don’t. Would you agree with all my opinions and beliefs? Maybe not. But that is what makes the world an interesting place…we all have opinions and listening and respecting those around you is how we grow.
    But I do think there is a time and place for some of the questionable performances on TV the other night. Especially the opening and the closing. There were kids watching that show – it should be a family time together not having to send your kids away or shut off the show. I just wish Hollywood would save those things for their concerts or bedrooms. I don’t need to see it in my living room.

  29. I have opined that the assumption that Perry engaged in a wicthcraft and satanic ritual, and this invokes various areas where Evangelicals must engage in critical self-reflection: http://johnwmorehead.blogspot.com/2014/01/perrys-dark-horse-evangelicals-and-pop.html

  30. I can see both sides of the argument…but a line needs to be drawn and I’d have to say I would have left too. I think her publicizing it was the issue, not leaving. We are to have ‘no part in the godless deeds of the unrighteous’. There were not simple swear words going on in there…

    Maybe I would feel different if I lived in San Francisco…. and maybe I would need to!

  31. Maybe Natalie had a bad day. Christians find it hard to be a light in the world, because we are broken and still fall into many traps. I’m so glad that God shows us grace — “In that while we were yet sinner’s Christ died for us”

  32. I can kinda see where ya come from, but I’d like to offer another point of view. Someone was disgusted by not small cussing but large quantities of vulgarity and did not want to support it. It’s got to be exciting to be nominated, but disappointing when it’s not what you’d hoped for.

    Jesus would indeed hang with the rif raf, but didn’t a lot of them try to change? And did he not encourage them to? They aren’t going to change at the grammies until they see a reason to. Maybe if more of us “walked out” when we were uncomfortable, they’d chill. Our culture is increasingly excepting of lude behavior, and the people you surround yourself with will definitely help define who you are. Removing yourself from certain people can help you to avoid behaviors you dislike doing yourself.

    Jesus said we need to love God with all our heart, all our soul, and all our might. And love our neighbors as ourselves. Well, I’m willing to love me as bash myself for my transgressions. I think it’s only fair to love someone else and say “this is not appropriate. no.”

  33. Regan Forsythe

    This christian singer simply tweeted to her fans just as most people with a public platform do. She’s been blasted for “publicizing” it …what? It’s a tweet people …to her own followers that hear from her every single day on many diverse subjects. It was internet activists , trolling for any sniff of dissent from ANYONE in the wake of historic social and artistic events on the Grammy stage , that caught her tweet , saw an opportunity and showered her with a barrage of hateful belligerent messages, presuming falsely that she had made a statement about any one particular issue or person. This is a media controversy manufactured by those with an axe to grind. (albeit with a commensurate outpouring of support as well for Ms Grant ).

  34. Since this is a public forum in the marketplace of ideas , please don’t mistake my previous critique of Laura’s article as personal (Ad hominem). The content of Laura’s article, however, is quite simply an indefensible set of wild presumptions , and it is at it’s core a projection of the very moral superiority she claims to object to. The actions of this christian singer tweeting that she “left the grammys early” were her own, personal convictions, not forced on anyone, nor a morally superior display of “showy religiosity” as one post asserts. She called no one person, specific performance or yes, even social issue out . She never implied her faith was better than others and has taken a public beating for simply removing herself for an UNSPECIFIED reason (read: classy and non-divisive, ). For all we know, she may have eaten bad shrimp and the thoughts “left inside her head ” may have been about Taylor Swift’s almost certain whiplash come the morning after. She has been vilified by people who display the need to have society condone 100% of their actions without question or accountability. In the case of the 2014 grammys, values were put on display on music’s biggest stage and seen by millions for maximum social impact. And yet Grant took the high road and only stated her personal exit. Some folks judging her , like Laura , are embarrassed by her convictions since it might result in the world “not feeling they can be themselves around us” christians , or even, heaven forbid, they “roll their eyes” one post here suggests – as though christians are all fanatics since one of them decided to exit out early. This worldview screams , “oh super cool world out there (that we want to reach someday), please , please think we are cool too, let us hang out , we promise you won’t even notice we’re here, we’re just like you so don’t you go changing now , we’re totally ok with anything you’re ok with.”
    This is the recipe for an INERT gospel. It may not be cool hipster language , but Jesus said to the religious establishment, “I wish you were hot or cold , but because you are lukewarm, I will spew you out of my mouth.” BTW, that’s NOT a judgement for any christian who decided to stay at the show , just an indictment of the worldview that can’t stomach personal convictions.
    Sadly , our culture displays a shocking level of intolerance (yes i used that word or you can also insert “reverse intolerance” if it suites you better ) at not only the slightest inference of dissent , but also when the provocateurs of a sociopolitical agenda don’t receive an unequivocal endorsement of what they believe and put on public display for us to accept.
    It’s called moral relativism. K refers to this philosophy , in which the notion that morality is so impossibly complex and subjective , that no moral decision or action can assigned value by others- in other words, live as only you alone see fit and fight back viciously at the mere suggestion that someone doesn’t agree with you 100%. The lack of civility and accountability on social media allows people to take it a few steps further and maliciously shred anyone who dares even feign withholding personal approval…. or dares exiting the spectacle.
    The idea that staying there at the show would have opened more dialogue and proximity for her to “critically discuss” what she saw is laughable. None of us can ascertain anything about her personal relationships with unbelievers or the many ways she may share her faith and life with others who do not believe. People are raging mad…..because she simply left early and chose not to be a silent witness. That is as much a statement about our culture as it is her personal choice.
    Laura , I hope you reconsider your unfair judgement of Ms Grant, because , as opposed to another very judgmental post here , I believe you ARE one of us, simply by your own confession. :)
    cheers, Nick

  35. This entire comment section scares me to death.

    Christians are constantly using Scripture out of context just to make a point. I can make a point about why to leave not even using Scripture. The moral aspect alone as a human being is a reason to leave. Pop Culture and music has become reasonably degrading. This thought does not make me better than anyone else, or even judging anyone else. What would this article be like, if let’s say, Macklemore and Madonna, or Niki, walked out because Amy Grant performed? This is a two way street.

    I think this article should be more about the basic loss of principle of freedom we have in America. Where you are FREE to believe what you want to believe. FREE to pursue happiness. FREE to speak your mind, or did we lose that right sometime in the past twenty years somewhere?

    I could care less that she walked out, or if anyone else walked out. It’s their decision. They are invited. If they choose to leave, even after showing up, means little to me. They have that right. This is still America right? Maybe we should we post military personnel inside and outside of the Staples Center and force and coerce them to stay like other countries around the world do.

    Be thankful we have the right to watch the Grammy’s without them being censored, and be thankful we have the right to turn it off or walk out if we don’t like them.

    As a Christian I am in no way disturbed, my faith is a solid rock, unwavering. I believe if Amy Grant did anything wrong, or had any ill-intent, or any malicious thought in her heart, self-righteous, or judgmental or not, well that’s between her and her God, her judge, not you and me. Christians are majorly misunderstood. I have spent many years on the mission field helping the less fortunate, I have gone out of my way to assist others in America out of compassion and love, this doesn’t make me any better than a non-Christian, or secure my place in Heaven. I can’t prove to you God exists, but I can tell you in my life, He does, that through that relationship in Christ I have seen a side of myself that reaches out the less fortunate. I find myself socializing with “sinners” so to speak. They aren’t Christians, they know I am a Christian. They know what I believe. I am not threatened by their actions, words, or beliefs. They aren’t threatened by mine. They know I won’t partake in some of their actions, or drink with them at bars, or even during the superbowl game, but they know I don’t judge them for it either. That’s between themselves, and their God. They answer for their life. It’s not my place to judge them. It is my place to understand them, and be their friend. Sometimes you have to make a stand for what you believe in. Using this following story, I do not want to make this story political, or start a debate off topic, but a close friend of mine, not a Christian, was considering an abortion. I offered to adopt the child if she would not have the abortion. I was pretty sure she wouldn’t accept the offer, but since I am against the loss of ANY life unless absolutely necessary, because I believe life is precious, and precarious at best, think about it a little virus bug, one that could spread across the globe like a plague, and wipe most of us out before we could even stop it. Well, I think life should be preserved at all costs. Anyway, she decided to let me adopt the child. Long story short, after having the child she decided she wanted to keep the child. He is thirteen years old now. He knows about what his mother went through. He knows about me, the decisions I helped her make, and we are all friends. He knows about my faith, so does she. In fact, we go to Church together once in awhile. I am still not sure about her faith in Christ, or His, but it’s between them and God, not me.

    Christianity is about being a light to the world. It’s about standing for something more than yourself. It’s not about me, it’s not about Bible-thumping. Christianity is about showing the love of Christ through my life, my thoughts, my actions, and most importantly how I react to non-Christians.

    No….I am not better than anyone else, nor am I anyone’s judge, but that doesn’t prevent me from sharing my faith, or making a stand for what I believe is right. It’s the same concept that gives you the right to tell me what I believe in is wrong, and I respect that. It doesn’t mean I agree with you, or that any of us will ever come to an agreement on where the line is on the issue, but you won’t find me preaching at you. My job is already done. In my faith I am instructed to spread the Gospel, but if you already know it, and already have denied it, that’s your choice, and it’s not my job to try to coerce, guilt trip you, or force you to believe and you have believed, that is between you, and you alone, or in some cases you and your God alone, if you already know the Gospel there is no sense in me beating you over the head with it. All I will do is push you further away from Christ.

    You have the right to believe what you want to believe, and I respect that. It may pain my soul to see someone deny Christ, knowing that in my faith, you will never know the love of Christ or His saving grace, but in the end it’s a choice between God and you. My job is to be there for you, to trust God, and to know that God has a plan for myself, and you.

    In fact, I am going to the bar Sunday night with several of my friends to watch the super-bowl. I may have to drive a few of them home, but at least they will get home safe. I will have my usual sodas. They know that, the bar-tender, she knows that, but I don’t preach my faith. I am their to socialize, and to make sure my friends get home safely. Just like Christ socialized with the ones who did not believe. How else am I suppose to reach out to unbelieving world if I do not go and socialize with them. Mostly Christians are at Church, how does that reach an unsaved world?

    It doesn’t.

    Being there for my unsaved, unbelieving friends, without judging them, without preaching at them.

    That does reach them.

    Amy Grant walking out of the Grammy’s.

    Her choice, her actions obviously had an impact. I don’t know if they are positive or negative yet, but I respect she made a choice and stuck to it. Only her and God knows if it was self-righteous or judgmental actions, that’s not up to me to decide. He is her judge. Not you, and not me.

    Good day to all.

  36. I’m an atheist, and while I agree that Christians shouldn’t act in the ways you are speaking out against, I’ve gotta say, the world could do with a lot of modern artists behaving better. We’d be better off without the culture of sexism, violence, drug use, and general crudity in the music industry.

  37. I think that you did make a few good points here. But, I disagree where you said that (basically) Christians should blend in with the culture of the world and not set themselves above it. The Bible clearly says, “Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is–his good, pleasing and perfect will.” We are called to be above reproach as Christians, especially considering how corrupt the world is today. We are called to be light in a dark world (Matthew 5:14) and be messengers of the Good News of Jesus, and part of that means not blending in with the world.

    I have never commented on something like this before, but I have to be honest when I say that this part rubbed me the wrong way. I do agree with your overarching theme that we should not distance ourselves so far from the world that we become unapproachable and are looked at as judgmental.

  38. I respect her for her choice. Why should or would anyone endure what offends them? I disagree with your assertion that it was a self-righteous act and that she was putting herself above “culture”. She was separating herself from what offended her. It was righteous.

  39. Peter Anthony

    I turned on the Grammys during Perry’s performance and immediately switched the channel because of the Satanic theme of the set. If I wasin attendance I would have left, you have to draw the line. We are at point of desensitization as we are bombarded by our culture and not any different from Jesus’ days. I am curious about the statements from Natalie and the timing; did she respond to the criticisms posted on Facebook. I generally agree with your statement with respect to morally superiorly complex of some Christians, but your treatment of Natalie was extremely harsh.

  40. This article represents a faux intellectual hipster version of Christianity which is very concerned with the nuanced subtleties of cultural engagement but comes up empty handed when it comes to actually humbly bearing the spirit of God into ANY situation God calls us into, or out of. It sounds like Laura craves acceptance from the very circles of entertainment industry that Ms Grant routinely navigates as evidenced by Grant’s multiple nominations. The irony of a blogger using her platform to write such a moralistic judgement of Grant’s motives , all the while perpetuating what she is protesting by calling out this christian singer for simply tweeting to her fans about leaving early and behaving “morally superior” is almost too much. Not credible.

  41. Percy just nailed it.
    The worldview behind this article is intellectually and spiritually bankrupt as it doesn’t hold up to scripture , common sense , nor contains a a whiff of compassion in it’s discourse. It won’t compel the world to consider Jesus as the singular solution to the human condition, it only makes the people who stop to think in the world snicker at the weakness of some of his followers as they try harder than everyone else to be cool and accepted in society.

  42. Laura Turner (author), promotes herself with labels such as “church culture enthusiast”, so it’s only appropriate that her highly personalized rip on Natalie Grant’s motives and now infamous Grammy tweet should also be scrutinized here by logic and measured against her own professed faith.
    By her account, Laura was one of the “normal” youth group kids, secure enough to be dropping the S word to the discomfort of some more uptight christians , and she knew that she’d never be close friends with those she offended (judgmental button pushing anyone?). What morally superior rubbish! Not that saying the S word has anything to do with a believer’s security in the work of Christ- ( it doesn’t) However, she never describes any situations more specifically applicable to the Grammys in which her super secure faith wasn’t ” threatened” by an in your face , egregious public parade of aggressive depravity. She doesn’t come out the other side of her scenarios having compelled her social circle to meaningful spiritual dialogue beyond mere social acceptance. She doesn’t give examples how the comfort unbelievers felt around her resulted in anything besides being thought of as cool. Maybe she could have , but she didn’t and also didn’t think twice about ripping Grant’s motives as a morally superior publicity stunt from the security of a computer screen. Even If I was reaching to stick up for her (and I’m not) , I’d go out on a limb and say Laura was fostering personal relationships in her High school (which can often have the most effective lasting impact in sharing faith) , and yet I see a huge credibility gap comparing that to being with 18K + people crammed into the staples center for 3 hrs at the grammys. Yet this is exactly what she called out Grant for – not achieving some supposed grand critical dialogue…or for honoring her nomination by attending the show …or for just not shutting up. Maybe somewhere in between the satanic role playing, semi-erotic performances, mass gay wedding , and hollywood afterparties pounding 90 decibels of EDM music, she asserts Grant should’ve won over some hollywood elite by staying and creating “critical dialogue”. It’s a bit like a middle aged pudgy dude playing monday morning armchair quarterback claiming how he almost certainly could have done a better job than Colin Kaepernick and the 49ers did against Seattle’s fierce defense in the NFC tittle game! …sorry i couldn’t use the Manning Superbowl reference yet…too soon.

  43. I’m no perfect model christian myself , but I get a real kick out of Laura turner’s list of previous scandalous grammy low points in comparison to this years shock value to make her point- ( Oh no, it’s Chris Brown singing… onstage , heaven forbid , Paula Cole is flipping the bird , I can’t even look !! dancers in S&M gear , oh the historic horrors !! ) Nicki Minaj – maybe I’ll give her that one.
    2014 grammys makes you wonder what comes next , doesn’t it? Even more ironic- The TV networks permitted all the lewd and satanic content of this years show , but the would have certainly bleeped out any performer that dared utter Laura’s beloved S word!

  44. “I walked out.” Posted at 11:22pm on Jan 26//An innocent (public) tweet by @nataliegrant in reply to an innocent question tweeted by @shearamsey : “how do you feel about being at the Grammys right now?”
    “I walked out.” PERIOD. 12 characters. To the pure, these words were and are pure, but 1 twitter handle desired to pursue their own agenda. “I walked out.” was labeled as “hate speech” and with the stroke of a hashtag—hate, twisted truth, and division moved across cyberspace. And to what end? If I look for hate then I will most likely create it. Fans of Ms. Grant know her 3 words were pure because the heart in her music and good works is pure. As Believers we will choose to do good, even in the face of hate.
    (Titus 1:15-16;Matt 5:44

  45. I’m sorry, but this writer is literally so full of hubris and hypocrisy that it defies belief!
    If you look up her twitter profile@ikoturner you will find that she tweets , oh, about every few minutes ( in the last 6 hrs she’s tweeted 27 times) and yet she castigates 1 singular tweet
    of Natalie Grant’s that includes the simple words “we left early” as a morally superior PUBLICITY stunt! Really Laura? Keep in mind this is the same writer who contributed the comparison piece on the RNS site between Song of Solomon and Beyonce’s “drunk in Love” , pitting the linguistically beautiful sensual and sexual poetry of the SOS side by side against the aroused erotic lusting of Beyonce for her lovers good wood, ” graining on that wood” , “surfing all in this good good” that she “can’t keep her hands off it” . What simply incredible parallels!! . Maybe a few pornographic images from real life Married couples would have also helped illustrate the biblical / JayZ intersecting preoccupation with “breasts for breakfast” ? Don’t blush folks, i’m only quoting her article and JayZ. Hmmm, no wonder she objects to Grants early exit from the Grammys – since that must felt like an indictment of everything she revels in. Laura, I’m so glad that you enlightened us how the Beyonce Grammy performance was such a blessing and contribution to your marriage and spiritual life and for proclaiming that it’s “today’s Song of Solomon”.
    It occurs to me that Turner simply delights in being purely provocative, not necessarily redemptive. She is trolling for an audience with shock value just like at the, hmmm, Grammys .The direction in which we walk out our amazing Liberty and freedom in Christ can also serve as a window to what is driving us. I suggest a penchant for intellectual pride and rebellion from Turner. She is simply a provocateur- And probably relishes the title.

    Laura, I have a great idea for your next provocative piece: you should assemble a media montage of the most grotesque vile images of gang rape and human dismemberment and work them into a nice little number in conjunction with Judges 19:29 , after all it’s in the bible , right? I know the readers of RNS just gobble this self styled pseudo christian intelligentsia crap up. I bet the only thing Turner would like about this post is that I mentioned her twitter handle, and the fact that she can use her literary gifts to get a rise out of people.

  46. I find the article above concerning……I feel that Natalie handled the situation in a humble and convicted manner. Shame on this journalist for making it anything but that. I question if she should be writing for religion news.

  47. Yes Jesus hung out with sinners WHO DID NOT REJECT HIM AND WANTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT HIM those of you saying he would have stayed are wrong and need to get your bible out. (If u even care) Jesus denies those who openly reject Him and hates hypocrites. Most of the people at the grammys openly reject Him or say they are Christian then go and sing about sex and hate and bla bla or get drunk and do drugs (cough cough Mikey Cyrus)… And don’t even pull the “well what about Christians messing up” a true christian messes up then turns around and tries not to mess up again not repeatedly do the same over again on purpose… Doesn’t mean any of those people at the grammys cant change though

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